TROOP 408 February Committee Meeting Minute

 

                                                                                                                                                2/12/2002 Amy Huang

 

 

When: 2/12/2002 (Tuesday), 7:30- 9:00pm

Where:      Monta Vista High School

 

Attendant: 24 families

 

Meeting Minute:

 

·       Highlight of last committee meeting

 

1. Should we cover the adult leader cost for scout event?

·       Result: The decision we made last week was Troop 408 would only cover the cost of adult leader in summer camp.

 

2. Should Committee meeting changes to the second troop meeting?

·       Result: We are going to try it out, because we would like to have more parents to attend the meeting. While committee meeting is in progress, SM or ASMs can take tune to supervise scout. Some parents concern about SM or ASM will miss the meeting that should not be the problem. When there is a need for voting, SM or ASMs will go first or their spouse can attend the meeting.

 

3. How to summit a BOR application?

·       Result: Only scouts can summit the BOR application. Advancement subcommittee recommends scouts send an email, or call first and followed by an email and keep a copy for reference.

 

4. What is the adult leader uniform guideline?

·       Answer:  When an Adult Leader wears an uniform, it has to be a complete uniform, including all necessary badges, such as quality unit... etc. Please consult with Badge and Uniform subcommittee for detail.

 

·       Highlight of today’s discussion:

 

*** Proposition 1: Should troop 408 hire a guide for summer 50 miler

 (Russian River hiking and canoeing)? - proposed by PLC

 

Discussion:

 

CC:

The summer 50-miler event is a two days cannoning and three days hiking event.

 

   SM: Victor will find some one knows the trail from Troop 452 to lead the trail.

 

   Mr. Raymond Hsu:

Senior scout should be able to lead the trail, however cannoning needs at least  one BSA life guard certify to go with the event.

 

   Mr. Patrick Lin (ASM in charge for 50 Milers): 

   I suggest that we are using base camp concept. Russian River is too far away from home, and not easy for adult to support.

  

   Mr. Raymond Hsu:

I suggest scouts hike along the trail, move along every day.     

   CC: We need to do more study for the program. Ms. Flora Le has a complete program from troop 452 regarding Russian River and will give to SM for reference.

 

   SM: We will take a look this program, and do an evaluation.

  

   Conclusion for proposition #1:

·       CC: The ASM in charge, Mr. Patrick Lin will talk to the senior scout in charge, JoJO & Victor, to know more about what scouts need.

 

 

 

*** Proposition 2: Could we move the PLC meeting to the first Sunday night of each month? – Proposed by the PLC.

 

Discussion:

·       Mr. Gary Liu has concern that Sunday night is the night before school day. Mr. Hsin-Min Chi said he has to work on Sunday night. The majority of parents do not have any objection about the schedule. There is no vote for this proposition.

 

Conclusion for proposition #2: 

·       CC: There is no problem to move the PLC meeting to the first Sunday night of each month.

 

*** Proposition 3: Discussion about April outdoor event

 

      Discussion

·       Mr. Raymond Hsu stated that April event is the event for scout to prepare May district camporee. It would be nice for scouts to attend Japanese or CASA camporee in April. Mr. Ben Chia said that PLC decided not to attend CASA camporee. They would like to go to Half Moon Bay for a day trip to prepare for the May District Camporee.

 

Conclusion for proposition #3: 

·       CC: MR. Gary Liu will take action to talk to SPL regarding  what scouts like to do for the April event.  

 

 

*** Proposition 4: Special Eagle COH in Cupertino Senior Center

Mr. Raymond Hsu: There is going to have special Eagle Scout COH for Jojo Choi and Harold Hsu. 

 

      Mrs. Eva Choi: The COH will be on May 11 3:00pm to 5:00pm at South Culture Center in Sunnyvale.

 

      Mr. Gary Liu: Is this the troop event or Eagle Scout’s parent event? Who is  going to pay for the expense? Does our troop have budget for this type of event?

 

      CC: Troop 408 does not have budget system yet. Whenever troop has the budget process, we might consider to have a budget item for eagle COH.

 

       

     Mrs. Sherry Hsu: This is a special COH to reward scouts for their achievement. Even though this is a scout’s parents organized event, we would to like to get support from Troop 408. All expense will be pay by Eagle Scout parents, including facility, flower, misc expense…. However, if Troop 408 can provide a congratulation cake, that will be great.

 

 Mr. Patrick Lin: I think it is a good idea to show our troop’s congratulation by supply a cake. I would suggest we make this a Troop 408 tradition.

 

Conclusion for proposition #4:

·       CC: Let’s take a vote for this suggestion. 20 out of 24 agree Troop 408 will supply a cake for Special Eagle Scout COH. The committee approves to provide a cake for Eagle Scout COH as congratulation. Eagle scout’s parents will arrange this special COH and may ask help from troop.

 

 

*** Proposition 5: How many adult leader will Troop 408 pay for the summer camp?

 

·       CC: Should Troop only pay one whoever in charge and must attend summer camp or should Troop pay the number of adults up to ratio (1/4 or 1/8 adult to scout ratio), subject to budget limit? We run out time for this proposition, please think about this topic and let’s discuss at next meeting.

 

 

 

 

·       Summary of Subcommittee Report

 

Activity Subcommittee: Reported by Mike Chao

1)      There are 31 scouts signed up for the summer camp as of today. Most of

them have turned in checks already. We will have total 34 free shirts. (31

+ 1 back up + 2 free adult shirts). I kept same number of estimated

attending scouts on the free-shirt form just mailed to SFBAC at 40. So, we

still have plenty of available spaces.

 

1)      Pico Blanco camp site (near Big Sur) have been reserved for September

family camp.

 

 

      Advancement Subcommittee: Reported by Jennifer Saye

·       BOR at 2/26/02 7:30pm, date line 2/19/02. We are going to have Chinese translation test starting from this month. The schedule will be the same as BOR. 

 

                Badge and Uniform Subcommittee:

·       Mr. Raymond Hsu: Troop 408 got the commissioner award, the troop will get one year rank badge free.

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Communication Subcommittee

·       CC: The web site has been updated and up running. Thanks for Nai-chang Yu’s hard work.

 

Finance Subcommittee

·       We are in the cash base. So far, we still have money in the bank. See the monthly report for detail. May be we should find other source for our finance, such as fund raising .     

 

      Membership Subcommittee

                SM: Are we accepting new scouts?

Mr. Patrick Lin: Does scout in the waiting list will get first priority?

      Mr. Ben Chia: I have the waiting list. Only two are in the list.

      Mrs. Sharry Hsu: According to BSA guide line, it would be a good idea to have 24 to 36 scouts in a troop. We should keep our scout’s member in control.

      CC: We are not going to have a recruit process this year, only referral. Please send all the candidates information to membership subcommittee and CC. 

 

·        Summary of a Special Report about Woodbadge

 

            Mrs. Eva Choi talked about her personal experience about leadership training. If you would like to know more about leadership development, she highly recommends Woodbadge Training. The Woodbadge Training Spring, 2002 program is specially develop for Chinese leadership camp. Mr. Patrick Lin mentioned there would be 12 adults from our troop to attend this event.  

 

·        Last word from CC:

   We will discuss and vote the adult leader financial support for summer camp in the next committee meeting. Whether we will only cover one adult leader or more adults base on the scout/adult ratio. Please think about it. Thanks for everyone to attend the meeting.

 

SM Minutes by Kelvin  Chin

January Highlights:

 

1.        Tsolee Hsu, one of the ASM of the Dragon patrol resigned his post. Right now, the only ASM for Dragon is Ben Chia, and I'll help him out as needed. For Tiger, there is only one official ASM, Peng Lin. I am also doubling up as ASM for Tiger, too. It is because Justin is the Tiger's patrol leader.

2.        All the scouts holding staff positions, except Peter Pang and Austin Chia, are put back into patrols. Victor Li is with the Shark, Harold Hsu is with the Dragon, Jojo Choi is with the Moose.

3.        It is official now: Troop Guide for the Shark is Joshua Pang, the Dragon is Jingsong, the Tiger is Jingyi, and the Moose is Derrick.

4.        In the February PLC, it decided that from now on, the PLCs will be held on the 1st Sunday of the month. For April, the scouts decided to forgo this years Chinese Camporee, which we hadn't received any information at that time, and have a one day outdoor training for the District Camporee competition instead. Inviting/or hiring a guide for the 50-miler event was suggested. Ben Chia asked the patrol leaders to submit their patrol 6-month patrol meeting dates and plans to the Scoutmaster. I also requested patrol meeting minutes and the lists of the patrol members' jobs in their patrol. For further PLC minute  details, please refer to the Troop Web site.

5.        Peng Lin was kind enough to attend the February District Roundtable. Please see attachment for the information he brought back to us.

 

 

 

 

Round Table Minutes

 

Please note the sections of Training and Changes to BSA Advancement Requirements. -- Peng Lin

 

Minutes of 2/12/02 Polaris Roundtable

Council Office Phone - (408) 280-5088

 

ACTIVITIES

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Yo-wei Liu reported on Scouting for Food.  54,000 pounds of food were

contributed for the council, 11,000 lbs. More than last year.  15,000

lbs. came from Polaris district.

 

FREE CPR Class - 3/9.  Class to be held at Paramount's Great America.

WWW.SCAE.ORG for registration.  Classes will be 8:30-12:00 and

2:00-5:30.  Participants will receive Paramount Great America

discounts.

 

Yo-wei is looking for volunteers for future Polaris District

activities - District Pinewood Derby, Council Annual Dinner, Goodwill

Goodturn Drive, Scout-O-Rama, Membership Activities, District Annual

Dinner, Scouting for Food or other.  If your unit has volunteers (this

will help you towards earning commissioner's award & getting free

cloth patches) please send name, unit, phone number, E-mail address,

event interested and volunteer's skills to yliu@therma.com  (408)

253-5696 or FAX (408) 347-3411.

 

Good-Will Good Turns is being conducted 2/1-2/24.  Units interested in 

participating will get bags from their local Goodwill store, collect

donations and return them to Goodwill 2/23-2/24.  Completed forms

documenting donations need to be mailed in 3/4- 3/15.  Call Goodwill

at (408) 998-5774 ext 190 for info, Fax (408) 295-5316.  Scouts earn

patch for 3 filled bags, Unit gets ribbon for 100% participation,

Leader gets commemorative mug for 100% participation (all members have

participated in collecting donation filled bags).

Cupertino - DeAnza & Homestead (Rite-Aide)

Cupertino - 1125 DeAnza Blvd.

Moorpark & Lawrence (Longs/Park & Ride)

Westgate - Saratoga & Prospect (Saratoga Lanes)

Sunnyvale El Camino - El Camino & Saratoga/Sunnyvale (Trader Joes)

Wolfe - Wolfe Rd & Old San Francisco Rd (Safeway)

Sunnyvale - 151 E. Washington

 

District Pinewood Derby was a success, Bob Wedig reports that 75 Cub

Scouts participated.

 

RAFT applications are being finalized.  RAFT is an association that

allows non-profits an opportunity to get materials to be used by

non-profits such as Scouts in their activities (not for resale).  RAFT

has computers available for 1/2 price (for Non-profit use only, not

 personal).  For info, check out www.raft.net/resources - send your

completed forms to Jim Long, 10564 Ainsworth, Los Altos, CA 94024.

 

ADVANCEMENTS

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Merit Badge requirements have changed, especially Swimming.  Check

addendum to these minutes for details.

 

BOY SCOUT CAMPING

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Hi-Sierra Leader orientation will be 2/27 & 3/27

 

Hi Sierra is only Venturing High Adventure camp - there is a

"Provisional" option where boys or girls may attend if their unit is

not going.  Rock climbing, sailing, kayaking, wall climbing are all

available - check web site under Base Camp.

 

CUB SCOUT CAMPING

==================

Lisa Corley reports that for 7/15-19 Stevens Creek Day Camp ALL

stations are filled, but Camp director and Program Director are needed

- these positions earn a Pack 15 campers slots.  For 7/29-8/2 only the

Scout Skills station, and Camp Director and Program Director are open.

Camp Directors and Program Directors need to be identified as soon as

possible. They need to go to training March 8 - 10th at Walker Creek

Ranch near Petaluma. Planning meeting will be Wednesday, 2/27 at 7:30

pm at DeAnza Park in Sunnyvale - Contact Lisa Corley at (408) 773-8244

or email lisa@corley.org or Debbie Gary (debbiegary@att.net or phone

at 358-2518).

 

FINANCES

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FOS should be underway in your units, if you need information or

materials please contact Hoi at (408) 253-3579.

 

OA (Order of the Arrow)

===================== 

Camporee 2002 will have an additional relay patrol event.  A-Frame,

run, stretcher, bulldog…preregistration for Camporee ensures patch,

T-Shirt.  Pre-register ASAP (3/1).

 

OA has 3 visitation teams, is in the process of contacting

Scoutmasters to arrange a visitation.

 

TRAINING - BOY SCOUT - Bob Ulicki - (408) 446-3718

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2/26 Youth Protection

2/27 Merit Badge Counselor Training

3/9 New Leader Essentials at Service Center

3/16 Den Chief Training.  $10 if preregister by 3/1.  Registration

8:00-8:30, class 8:30 AM to 4:00 PM.

3/23 Scout Leader Training 8:30-5:00

4/13 Spring Wood Badge Training

4/23 Health & Safety

4/26-28 Outdoor Training

5/28 Health & Safety

 

 

TRAINING - CUB SCOUT - Suzette Pangrle - sbpangrle@attbi.com

 ===================================================

3/9/02 - Scouting Essentials - 8:30 AM - 10:30 PM $5.00 (snack

included)

3/9/02 - Cub Scout Leader Skills - 10:30 AM - 2:00 PM $15.00 (lunch

included)

3/23/02 - Basic Adult Leader Outdoor Orientation (BALOO) Lincoln Glen

Church, 2700 Booksin & Foxworthy.  Registration 8:30 - 9:00 AM,

Training 9:00 - 5:00 PM.  Early registration prior to 3/8  cost $10,

full cost $15.00.

 

Webelos Leader outdoor training will be 4/12-13 at Chesebrough.  Start

6:00 PM Friday, ends 6:00 PM Saturday.  Bring bag dinner for Friday,

Saturday food will be provided.  Come prepared to camp (tent, sleeping

bag…).  Must register by 4/5 to attend.  Questions, contact Bob Wedig

- (408) 735-0408.

 

 

Thank you for joining the Polaris Roundtable distribution group.  If

you know a leader who is not currently on this list, please invite

them to join by having them send an Email to:

SCCC-Polaris-RD-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

 

If you information to distribute at Roundtable, and don't want to take

the chance of having the Roundtable Minutes scribe  transkrybz it

incorrectly, then send a copy of your information to

SCCC-Polaris_RD-owner@yahoogroups.com prior to the meeting and it will

be inserted verbatim.

 

BSA Advancement Changes 2002    2I 2/2002

 

 

Changes to Boy Scout Advancement Requirements effective January 1,

2002

 

-Second & First Class:

o   Footnotes that allowed troop committee to waive swimming

requirements 7b & 7c for 2nd Class, and 9b for 1st Class, have been 

removed. Scouts unable to complete these requirements due to mental or

physical disability must now follow the procedures for alternate

requirements, and get Council approval.

First Class:

o   Requirement 9c (swimming survival skills using your clothes), has

been removed from First Class and moved to Swimming Merit Badge req.

4.

-Swimming Merit Badge:

o   Survival skills using your clothes have moved from 1st Class to the

new requirement 4.

o   Competitive swimming skills (racing form and turns, requirement 7)

and snorkeling/scuba diving knowledge (requirement 9) have been

combined into a single new requirement (8), with the scout choosing

one or the other.

0   Requirement 11, Assist in teaching swimming, is now removed.

0   Minor wording changes.

-   Cinematography

o   Most requirements were expanded and clarified.

-   Cooking

o   Requirements have been completely rewritten

-   Fly Fishing

o   New merit badge Not in 2002 Requirements Book.

 o   Pamphlet due out in March.

o   Draft requirements are on the web.

-   Metalwork

0   Completely rewritten to reflect vocations in this general area.

Radio

o   Minor changes to several requirements. Rifle Shooting

o   Minor changes to requirement 1.

o   Numerous editing changes to requirement 2A, 2B and 2C. Traffic

Safety

o   Completely revised. Wilderness Survival

o   Minor changes to requirements. Wood Carving

o   Completely revised For a complete list of changes (23 pages):

o   See:

http://www.usscouts.org/usscouts/advance/bovscout/advchanstes02.html

 

A good source of Advancement information (Merit Badge Requirements,

Merit Badge Counseling, Rank Advancement) is found at:

http;//usscouts.org/advancementTOC.asp

Greg Buchanan   g